HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - 07/17/1989 - Committee of the WholeCOMMITTEE MEETING OF WHOLE
MONDAY, JULY 17, 1988
A Committee Meeting of the Whole of the McHenry City Council was
called to order by Mayor Busse on Monday, July 17, 1989 at 7:45 P.M. at
City Hall. At roll call the following Aldermen were present: Bolger,
Donahue, Lieder, Serritella. Absent: Teta, Smith, McClatchey,
Patterson, City staff in attendance were Director of Public Works Batt
and City Clerk Gilpin.
Busse announced that the purpose of the Committee Meeting of the
Whole was to discuss extension of water lines to City of McHenry
residents in the Country Club Subdivision . This meeting would be
conducted as an informational meeting with a question and answer
session. The agenda for this meeting would be a brief presentation by
Director of Public Works Batt followed by questions from residents
involved in this proposed improvement. Approximately 50 people were in
attedance at this meeting.
This meeting came about when Alderman Donahue informed Mayor
Busse about two months ago that there was an interest by the residents in
Country Club Subdivision to obtain city water service. Part of the area
is already served by city sewers.
Busse said these meetings are held to get input from residents
involved in the improvement to find out how many are interested in the
nrnjP_rt, Thp water (zarvira installation could possibly be provided tc
City residents through a Special Assessment District similar to the
assessment district formed in 1988 which provided sewer service to
McHenry Shores. Under this method, the cost for water line installation
is divided among the number of lots in the subdivision that receive the
water service. There are two ways to spread the costs when doing a
Special Assessment project --either by linear feet based on the frontage
of your property or on the basis on how many lots would be served.
A petition containing 51 names was submitted to Mayor Busse
which stated "We the undersigned residents of McHenry, Illinois,
residing in McHenry Country Club Subdivision, do hereby suplicate by
petition to the City of McHenry the following requests: 1) Estimate the
installation cost of providing City water to the residents of Country
Club Subdivision; 2) Provide for a Special Assessment for these costs;
3) Determine the approximate time from commencement of installation and
its completion or put in motion the necessary operations to complete the
water installation after the undersigned have realized the approximate
cost and timeframes".
Ron Becker said that petitions were circulated to request that
the Council conduct this Public Hearing to get answers to some of their
questions to see if they wanted to proceed with the project.
Busse reiterated that the purpose of the meeting tonight was to
see if there was an interest by City residents for installation of water
lines in that area before the ounc�penTs anymore meeting time or
money in pursuing this further and before developing further engineering
studies. Neither detailed technical engineering questions nor the size
of the lines and the locations would be answered at this meeting but
Director Batt had talked to City engineers to get some basic information
to present at this meeting. If there was an interest, the project would
be taken back to the City Council with a recommendation and it would be
pursued further.
Batt explained that if this project were to proceed, each
household would be provided with a water stub to its property line and
from that point, the homeowner would be responsible for making the
connection to his home. Batt said it would take approximately three years
from the beginning of the project to the end which was the same
timeframe it took for McHenry Shores because there was extensive paper
work to do before the project could begin. In terms of actual
construction, it would take about three to four months for installation
and another two to three months for restoration work.
Batt said that without doing any engineering, cost estimates at
this time are very preliminary but he felt an estimate of $650,000 is an
approximate cost to install 8,900 lineal feet of water main in the
Country Club Subdivision. If costs were to be spread over 150 property
owners, the average costs per household would be approximately $4,500 for
construction costs alone.
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In addition to that, the City regularly charges a permit fee of
$150, a water meter fee of $60 and a Capital Development, fee of $450.
That would total over $5,000 per household using rough estimates at this
time.
Busse said that was a high sided cost and it could probably be
engineered to a lower cost. He was very cautious when giving estimates
because inflation could increase the cost. If he was going to err, he
would rather err on the high side because he felt it was a disservice to
tell people the cost is much less and then come back to tell them it was
actually higher. However, because everyone needs to know some range of
costs, the City's best estimate was in the vicinity of $5,000. In
determining estimated costs at this point, the only data available is a
generic per lineal foot cost, Busse said. Since this meeting was to
determine the level of interest, the next step would be to develop more
accurate data based on a engineering feasibility report.
It was pointed out that should the residents wish to proceed
with this project, the payments through the Special Assessment can be
made over a 10 year period of time or can be paid off at one time to
save the interest costs. However, it does not have to be paid all at one
time. Bolger said that sometimes peop a re-mor gage their homes to pay it
nff and then add it to their mortgage rather than pay the SpCCi at
Assessment up front. There are certain tax benefits if financed in that
manner, he said. However, it is up to each individual homeowner to
decide what would best fit their financial arrangement.
In summarizing the costs, Mayor Busse said preliminary data
would indicate that it would cost about $5,000 per lot per household.
The total project would cost $650,000. Divide that among 150 homes and
you would get a cost of approximately $5,000 per home. That is about $75
per lineal foot. That includes hydrants, valves and so forth. City
water costs $.75 per thousand gallons and costs about $60 a year for the
average household. The Special Assessment would be a lien put on the
home over a ten year period of time (that is the statutory limit). The
lien would stay on that home until it is paid off or the home was sold
(that is also a statutory requirement).
Before the project could proceed, a majority of City residents
in that area would need to voice their support for participation. It
was the intent of this project to service only City residents and not go
outside City limits. There is a provision in City ordinances for selling
water service outside City limits but only City residents can be served
through a Special Assessment project, Busse emphasized. If a resident
wants city water service and is not in City limits, he can apply for
annexation to the city if he is continguous to city boundaries.
Batt pointed out that there was another side benefit that many
people don't consider --you are buying a fire protection system and in
this project, there would be 20 fire hydrants added to the subdivision.
At the present time, that type of fire protection is not in the Country
Club Subdivision.
Busse said, in addition tc the increased level of fire
protection, there would also be an unlimited source of water available
which would help those who are presently having a problem with their
wells. Also pump repair costs and electricity to run the pumps would be
eliminated. When you analyze the high costs of drilling a well, maybe
the costs for installing a City water system are not so high in
comparison, he said. Several individuals in attendance felt the main
disadvantage was the cost.
In answer as to what would happen to existing wells, Batt said
the wells could remain in use as long as they were not used for human
consumption. The wells would not have to abandoned but could be used for
washing cars, sprinkling lawns, and other outside purposes. Also, the
wells could not be hooked up with the City water system but would have to
be kept separate.
The streets of the subdivision which could get water service are
John, Crescent, Golf View, Charlotte, Victoria, Virginia and a small
portion of Country Club Drive ---all of which must be in city limits.
Those homes on Riverstream and Judy which already have City water service
would not be assessed for this special project.
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Some of the residents expressed concern over the chemicals being
used by the Country Club on its property. One member of the Country Club
said this year the Country Club would be installing complete bent
fairways which means they would be using an abundance of various
herbicides, pesticides, etc. He was concerned that his well could also
be getting contaminated from the Fox River which is to the east of this
area. Busse said there were many reasons why the people might want city
water service such as safety and extent of their water supply, fire
protection, lower fire rates, no redrilling of wells, etc. It was also
pointed out that not only chemicals from the golf course and
contamination from the river were a concern but also homeowners who use
fertilizer on their lawns and gardens might also be contaminating local
wells. There was not just one issue that made people concerned about
getting water service to that area. Rather than taking a risk, many
people felt they wanted to make the investment now.
Batt explained that water service to the Country Club would
start where the original McHenry Country Club water line ends and would
be tied into an eight -inch main on Judy Lane. This water system would be
connected to the City system as a self contained unit. In the future, it
could be looped with Brittany Heights if development occurs east of the
Brittany Heights development.
Any oversizing of water lines for future hookups would
probably be paid for by the City through a Public Benefit Fund and would
not be passed on to the homeowners because such oversizing would benefit
the whole city water system. If that does occur, it could lower the
overall costs of the Special Assessment project.
It was also pointed out that after the water lines are
installed, the City would send out a notice saying that the homeowner
must hookup to the system within a certain period of time. It would be
more economical to hook up to City water than sewer because water lines
do not have to be laid according to grade and pitch.
Some residents asked where they could get their water tested
because the main factor that would cause them to want to hook up to City
water would be if their existing wells showed contamination. Someone in
the audience said that the University of Illinois Extension Service in
Woodstock would test for bacteria, heavy metals, organic chemicals, iron
content, etc. The cost would run about $180 for the test, it was
reported.
There was also concern that the city was installing water
service to the Country Club Subdivision so it could furnish City water
service to a proposed condominium/townhouse development being planned by
the McHenry Country Club. Ron Becker and Don Hojnacki, members of the
McHenry Country Club, said that members had talked about such a project
for years but now they are talking about adding another 9 holes in that
area instead of any multi -family development. Batt said that an 8 inch
water main would service the Country Club Subdivision nicely but if there
was any high density development such as townhouses or condominiums" put
in that area, an 8 inch line would not service it.
It was decided that the next step was to hold a meeting of all
City residents Country Club Subdivision to inform them of this project.
ose 1n t6ndance tonight were asked to go home and talk to their
neighbors and pass along the information presented at this meeting.
Another meeting will be scheduled early this fall and some sort of
individual notification will be formulated so that all residents
concerned with this project will be made aware of the next meeting.
Mayor Busse adjourned the meeting at 8:47 P.M.