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Planning and Zoning Commission Meeting
September 20, 2007
Chairman Howell called the September 20, 2007 regularly scheduled meeting of the City of
McHenry Planning and Zoning Commission to order at 7:30 p.m. In Attendance were the
following: Ekstrom, Howell, Nadeau, Schepler, Thacker. Absent: Buhrman, Cadotte. Also in
attendance were: Attorney Cahill, Director of Community Development Napolitano, Planner
Jurs, Deputy Clerk Kunzer.
Approval of Minutes
Motion by Nadeau, seconded by Ekstrom, to approve the minutes of the Planning and Zoning
Commission as follows:
August 16, 2007 regularly scheduled meeting.
Voting Aye: Ekstrom, Howell, Nadeau. Schepler, Thacker.
Voting Nay: None.
Not Voting: None.
Abstaining: None.
Absent: Buhrman, Cadotte.
Motion carried.
Public Hearing: John Alex Abt
File No. Z-713
209 North Front Street
Conditional Use Permits
Chairman Howell called the Public Hearing to order at 7:32 p.m. regarding File No. Z-713, an
application for the following as submitted by John Abt for the property located at 209 North
Front Street:
Conditional use permit to allow outdoor seating for a restaurant;
Conditional use permit to serve alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a restaurant.
In attendance were applicant John Alex Abt and his attorney Jeff Nutschnig who were both
sworn in by Chairman Howell.
Notice of the Public Hearing was published in the Northwest Herald on August 22, 2007.
Notices were mailed to all abutting property owners of record via certified mailing. The subject
property was posted as required by ordinance. The Certificate of Publication, certified mailing
receipts, and affidavit of posting are all on file in the City Clerk’s Office.
Attorney Nutschnig informed the Commission the applicant is proposing to convert the existing
restaurant located at 209 North Front Street to a Mexican-style restaurant, similar to his currently
owned Las Palmas restaurants in the suburbs. The applicant is seeking a conditional use permit
to allow outdoor seating and service of alcoholic in conjunction with his restaurant.
Planner Jurs provided the commissioners with the Staff Report regarding this matter. She noted
the applicant is seeking a conditional use permit to allow an outdoor seating area which is
already in place on the subject property. The applicant intends to make no external changes to
accommodate the outdoor seating area. Planner Jurs stated the applicant is also requesting a
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conditional use permit to allow the service of alcohol in conjunction with the restaurant.
Although Staff had initially thought alcohol would only be served at the tables with food, Mr.
Abt stated there would be a full service bar. Planner Jurs concluded Staff has no concerns and
supports the requests.
Chairman Howell opened the floor for questions and comments from the commissioners.
Question was raised as to the amount of available parking on the site. Mr. Abt responded there is
more than enough parking both in front of the building and at the rear of the premises.
Responding to an inquiry, the applicant stated the restaurant would be very similar to his other
Las Palmas restaurants, including the one in Mundelein.
Responding to an inquiry, Mr. Abt stated he would relocate the refuse disposal area to be
adjacent to either the restaurant or the shed at the rear of the site.
Commissioners inquired if consideration had been given to a cross access easement agreement
with the property owner to the north. The applicant responded he felt a cross access easement
agreement was unnecessary. He stated he has more than enough parking on his site for the
restaurant. He also is not opposed to customers of the neighboring businesses utilizing his
parking spaces.
Clarifying commissioners concerns, the applicant noted the restaurant would be open for lunch
and dinner. Hours of operation would be until 10 p.m. on Sunday through Thursday, and until 12
a.m. on Friday and Saturday. Responding to a staffing question, Mr. Abt noted he would be
utilizing some of his experienced staff from his other restaurants to initiate the opening of the
McHenry restaurant. He also stated all staff would be BASSET trained. The applicant noted he
intends to be open before May 1, 2008.
In response to Chairman Howell invitation for questions or comments from the audience, there
were none. There was not further testimony, questions or comments regarding this matter.
Motion by Nadeau, seconded by Schepler, to recommend to City Council with regard to File No.
Z-713 a request for the following for the property located at 209 North Front Street as requested
by John Alex Abt:
Conditional Use Permit to allow outdoor seating for a restaurant and to allow the service
of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a restaurant, be granted
Subject to the following conditions:
1. The Conditional Use Permit shall expire and become null and void if the restaurant
(Las Palmas) closes (defined by not being operational, i.e. serving customers) for a
period of six continuous months; and
2. The dumpster enclosure shall be relocated to be adjacent to either the principal or
accessory building.
And that Table 31, the Approval Criteria for Conditional Use Permits, pages 357-358 or the
Zoning Ordinance has been met.
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Voting Aye: Ekstrom, Howell, Nadeau, Schepler, Thacker.
Voting Nay: None.
Not Voting: None.
Abstaining: None.
Absent: Buhrman, Cadotte.
Motion carried 5-0.
Comments by commissioners:
Chairman Howell: Expressed his pleasure that someone is once again occupying the subject
property.
Chairman Howell closed the Public Hearing at 7:39 p.m.
Public Hearing: Josh Carstens
File No Z-712
3705 West Elm Street
Conditional Use Permit and Variances
Chairman Howell at 7:40 p.m. convened the Public Hearing regarding File No. Z-712, a request
for the following as submitted by Josh Carstens for the property located at 3705 West Elm Street:
Variance to allow a second principal building on a zoned lot;
Conditional Use Permit to allow a drive-up facility;
Variance to reduce the number of required stacking spaces from 5 per window to 2 per
drive-up window.
In attendance were applicant Josh Carstens and Kit Carstens and property owner Tom Sullivan of
Sullivan Foods, who were all sworn in by Chairman Howell.
Notice of the Public Hearing was published in the Northwest Herald on August 24, 2007. The
Certificate of Publication is on file in the City Clerk’s Office. Notices were mailed to all abutting
property owners of record via certified mailing. The subject property was posted as required by
ordinance. The Certificate of Publication, certified mailing receipts, and affidavit of posting are
all on file in the City Clerk’s Office.
Josh Carstens stated in light of the popularity of coffee and coffee –type beverages, such as lattes
and espressos, he saw an opportunity to initiate a new business in McHenry to fill this niche. He
is proposing to erect an 8’ by 10’ unit in the Sullivan Foods parking lot to provide a drive-up
coffee service to area residents and commuters. The unit is self-contained and would have dual
drive-up windows: one on the north side of the building, and one on the south side of the
building.
Planner Jurs stated Director Napolitano would provide the Staff Report and respond to comments
and questions regarding this matter.
Director Napolitano stated Staff reviewed the request noting the need for variances as well as a
conditional use permit to allow the proposed use on the site. The first variance is needed to allow
a second principal building on a zoned lot. Director Napolitano noted even though the unit would
utilize five parking spaces, there would be more than adequate parking on the site as required by
the ordinance for both the grocery store and the coffee kiosk. Traffic patterns would be impacted,
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particularly at the intersection of Elm Street and Third Street. Director Napolitano noted Staff
concerns regarding increased risk for traffic crashes at this intersection following the location of
the coffee kiosk on the premises. The Police Department has a record in its system of all traffic
crashes since October 2006. Since that time there have been 17 crashes at this location. Eleven of
the crashes resulted from attempted left turns from Elm Street onto Third Street. Three of the
crashes occurred during the later morning hours. Director Napolitano stated the applicant
believes peak times will occur between 7 a.m. and 11 a.m. In response to an inquiry of Chief
O’Meara, Director Napolitano stated the Police Department is comfortable with this use being
located in Sullivan Foods lot. Director Napolitano stated Staff suggested restricting Third Street
to right-in right-out, however, City Engineers did not believe that would help the situation. Staff
supports the request for a variance to allow the second principal building on a zoned lot. The use
might assist in bringing additional customers to the area.
Director Napolitano stated the applicants are also requesting a conditional use permit to allow a
dual drive-up facility on the premises. Without the drive-up windows, the kiosk would not work.
Director Napolitano noted the average number of transactions would be approximately 12/hour,
although the morning hours would be the busiest time. Staff recommends supporting the request
provided the applicant restripes the lot to ease on-site traffic flow.
Director Napolitano stated the applicants are seeking a variance to allow the reduction in the
required number of five stacking spaces per drive-up window. Two stacking spaces per window
are shown on the site plan. As there would be dual windows, the amount of stacking space could
likely be reduced without an impact on potential customers. Staff supports the requested variance
to reduce the number of stacking spaces.
Chairman Howell invited questions and comments from the commissioners.
Responding to an inquiry, Josh Carstens stated electric and telephone would be provided to the
kiosk. Water would also be provided. A gray water storage tank would be utilized which would
be emptied nightly. There would be no restrooms in the unit. Mr. Carstens noted he has made
arrangements with Sullivan Foods for his employees to use the grocery store’s restrooms.
A lengthy discussion followed regarding possible ways to alleviate the potential for onsite traffic
congestions as well as to minimize the risk for possible traffic crashes in the area. A suggestion
was made to change the parking lot entrance from Route 120 to an entrance only with no egress
from this point.
In response to a question regarding visibility of the kiosk for eastbound traffic, particularly in
light of the large monument Sullivan Foods sign, Mr. Carstens noted the kiosk sign will be
placed atop the unit and should be visible for both eastbound and westbound traffic.
Question was raised regarding arrangements for snow removal. Mr. Carstens responded the lease
agreement contained provisions for snow removal on the lot. Responding to an inquiry as to why
Mr. Carstens had chosen this particular location, Mr. Carstens stated this is the central hub of
town. Commuters will provide a major source of his clientele during the morning hours.
Responding to a question regarding product delivery, Mr. Carstens stated delivery would be via
UPS and would occur either prior to opening in the morning or following the end of the day in
the evening. Hours of operation would be 6 a.m. until 6 p.m. Mr. Carstens noted the unit is
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purchased from City Brew. The estimated number of customers per hour is twelve. However,
66% of the business will likely occur between 7 a.m. and 11 a.m. at which time the number of
customers would go up to about 22/hour.
Some concern was expressed regarding the request for reduced stacking spaces, particularly
during the peak times in the morning. In response to a question as to the duration of each
customer’s wait at the window, Mr. Carstens stated City Brew estimates three minutes per
serving. Mr. Carstens stated he would also serve items such as donuts, pastries, etc. along with
the coffee drinks.
Responding to commissioner’s inquiry, Mr. Sullivan stated his business peak time is 3 p.m. to 7
p.m. he anticipates the two businesses will complement each other.
Question was raised as to the feasibility of serving pedestrians. Mr. Carstens responded if there is
no provision in City codes to prevent it, he would be open to foot traffic service.
Noting concerns raised regarding safety, Mr. Carstens stated concrete bollards would be utilized.
He noted the building would be anchored into the parking lot. Should the unit be removed the
premises would be restored to prior condition.
Clarification was requested regarding the storage and removal of gray water. Mr. Carstens noted
the gray water would drain into a holding tank which would be taken behind the grocery store
and dumped into the City’s sanitary sewer. This would be done on a daily basis.
Suggestion was made by the commissioners that the applicant provide landscaping to ensure the
kiosk blends in well with the existing landscaping on the Sullivan Foods property.
In response to Chairman Howell’s inquiry, there were no questions or comments from the
audience.
Motion by Nadeau, seconded by Ekstrom, with regard to File No. Z-712, to recommend to City
Council that a request for variance to allow a second principal building on a zoned lot as
requested by Josh Carstens for the property located at 3705 West Elm Street be granted, subject
to the following condition:
1. If the coffee kiosk is closed (defined by not being operational, i.e. serving
customers) for a period of three continuous months, the coffee kiosk shall be
removed and the site shall be restored to its condition prior to the installation of
the coffee kiosk;
and that Table 32, the Approval Criteria for Variances, pages 377-378 of the Zoning Ordinance,
has been met.
Voting Aye: Ekstrom, Howell, Nadeau, Schepler, Thacker.
Voting Nay: None.
Not Voting: None.
Abstaining: None.
Absent: Buhrman, Cadotte.
Motion carried 5-0.
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Motion by Nadeau, seconded by Thacker, with regard to File No. Z-712, to recommend to City
Council that a request for conditional use permit to allow two drive-up windows for the coffee
kiosk located at 3705 West Elm Street as requested by Josh Carstens for the property located at
3705 West Elm Street be granted, provided that adequate pavement striping and signage be used
to direct customers on the site; and that Table 31, the Approval Criteria for Conditional Use
Permits, pages 357-358 of the Zoning Ordinance, has been met.
Voting Aye: Ekstrom, Howell, Nadeau, Schepler, Thacker.
Voting Nay: None.
Not Voting: None.
Abstaining: None.
Absent: Buhrman, Cadotte.
Motion carried 5-0.
Motion by Nadeau, seconded by Schepler, with regard to File No. Z-712, to recommend to City
Council that a request for variance to allow a reduction in the number of required stacking spaces
from five per drive-up window to two per drive-up window as requested by Josh Carstens for the
property located at 3705 West Elm Street be granted, provided that adequate pavement striping
and signage be used to direct customers on the site; and that Table 32, the Approval Criteria for
Variances, pages 377-378 of the Zoning Ordinance, has been met.
Voting Aye: Ekstrom, Howell, Nadeau, Schepler, Thacker.
Voting Nay: None.
Not Voting: None.
Abstaining: None.
Absent: Buhrman, Cadotte.
Motion carried 5-0.
Comments by commissioners:
Thacker: Noted he was skeptical regarding the location. His concerns have been answered in the
Staff Report and in the recommendation from Chief O’Meara regarding the site.
Chairman Howell: Expressed concern regarding traffic crashes at the site. This is a very chaotic
intersection. He noted he was swayed by Director Napolitano’s remarks regarding the
revitalization of this part of town as well as assurances that Staff had fully reviewed the request
and believes the use could work at this site.
Chairman Howell closed the Public Hearing at 8:15 p.m.
Other Business
Planner Jurs reported the agenda for the next meeting to be held on October 18, 2007 include
Bear Creek Coffee conditional use permit; Diamond Drive Development; and a minor variance
for a resident.
Inquiry was made if lighting spillover evaluations had been done on auto dealerships in town.
Planner Jurs noted no report was available at this time.
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Responding to an inquiry regarding the burned out site of the former Community Auto business,
Director Napolitano stated the site has been taken over by the bank. The City has placed
barricades to prevent illegal dumping on the premises.
Citing the imminent closure of the Mitchell Potts dealerships, brief discussion followed
regarding the possible redevelopment of the site.
Adjournment
Motion by Ekstrom, seconded by Nadeau, to adjourn at 8:20 p.m.
Voting Aye: Ekstrom, Howell, Nadeau, Schepler, Thacker.
Voting Nay: None.
Not Voting: None.
Abstaining: None.
Absent: Buhrman, Cadotte.
Motion carried 5-0.
Respectfully submitted,
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Kathleen M. Kunzer, Deputy Clerk
City of McHenry