HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes - 6/22/2010 - Community Development Committee COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE MEETING
� Tuesday,June 22, 2010
Aldermen's Conference Room, 7:00 p.m.
In Attendance: Chairman Alderman Condon, Alderman Santi, Alderman Peterson (arrived at
7:19 p.m.).
Also in Attendance: Deputy City Administrator Martin, Police Officer Adams, Downtown
Maintenance Superintendent Gorniak, Deputy Clerk Kunzer, Assistant City Administrator
Hobson.
Chairman Ald�rman Condon called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
Public Input Session
There was no one in attendance who wished to address the Committee during the Three Minute
Public Input S�ssion.
Discussion: Nuisance Abatement Ordinance
Deputy City ,Administrator Martin provided the Committee with a summary of a proposed
ordinance which addresses repeat offenders causing nuisances at the same location. The
Municipal Code currently addresses people creating nuisances, but there is no provision for
repeat offenses at a given location. The proposed ordinance which was adopted by the City of St.
Charles very clearly addresses this issue with specific remedies. If the Committee chooses to
� recommend adoption of such an ordinance, Staff will prepare the ordinance for consideration by
the Committee or City Council whichever the Committee prefers.
Officer John Adams addressed the Committee regarding the nuisance abatement ordinance. He
noted it is currently difficult to take any remedy as the ordinance is too vague regarding repeat
offenses at a location. The St. Charles ordinance is extremely specific and provides clear
remedies. The City's current ordinance leaves a lot to interpretation. The proposed ordinance
would be easier for officers to enforce. He stated an improved nuisance abatement ordinance
would complement the crime free multi-unit housing initiative.
Chairman Condon noted the references to the "Chief of Police' throughout the ordinance and
inquired if the words "or his designee" could be added for clarification. Deputy City
Administrator Martin agreed the phrase could be added.
Alderman Santi noted the St. Charles ordinance is very detailed. He stated there are references to
two events, and questioned if it was the intent of the City to recommend that two or more events
at the same location would be appropriately addressed by remedies. Officer Adams stated that
was correct. Two events are too many and action would be taken as directed by the remedies
contained in the ordinance.
Chairman Condon inquired if the proposed ordinance once drafted for the City would be
reviewed by the City Attorney. Deputy City Administrator Martin responded in the affirmative.
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� Motion by Sa�iti, seconded by Condon, to recommend that Staff prepare a nuisance abatement
ordinance mo�ieled after the ordinance adopted by the City of St. Charles and to bring the
ordinance befcre the City Council for consideration.
Voting Aye: Santi, Condon.
Voting Nay: None.
Absent: Peterson.
Motion carrieG.
Discussion: Downtown WavGndin� Si�ns
Assistant City Administrator Hobson stated in Fiscal Year 2008/2009 budget funds were set
aside in the Tourism Account to develop wayfinding signs in the City, particularly in the
downtown areas. Proposals were requested and submitted at that time by Hitchcock Group
($48,000) and Western Remac ($15,000) for the design of the downtown wayfinding signs
package. There was a great discrepancy between the two proposals. Staff determined it would be
cost-prohibitive to proceed with building the signs at that time.
Assistant City Administrator Hobson stated Staff is once again looking at this issue. Staff is of
the consensus that the City should proceed with developing a theme for the sign package
centered upon the wa�nding signs. However, Staff believes a design should be created for the
whole sign package so that signs could be added to specific locations from time to time. To that
end Staff sought proposals from known sign designers with the following results:
`.- Western Remac $27,555 (design and installation)
Via Wa�nding Systems $49,960 (design and installation)
SEC Group $9,850 (design) and $48,045 (sign installation' by Western
Remac)
Alderman Peterson arrived at 7:19 p.m.
Assistant City Administrator Hobson stated Staff identified nine locations where wayfinding
signs should be located. It is Staff s suggestion that the overall sign package be designed at one
time, and that particular color schemes or motifs be utilized to denote the three downtown areas:
Centerville (Green Street), Water Street (Riverside Drive) and Gagetown (Main Street). It is
important to highlight/utilize the unique qualities of each area but at the same time tie all three
areas together through a similar theme or design element.
Assistant City Administrator Hobson stated after reviewing all three proposals, Staff preferred
the Via proposal. An added benefit is that the company designs and builds their own signs. In
addition Via offered an option to design and create the entire comprehensive package, including
kiosks and trail blazer signs, so that when the City is prepared to move forward with additional
signs, the design would already be in place. The cost of the option is $3,500. Staff believes the
cost and product offered by VIA would best meet the City's needs.
Deputy City .�dministrator Martin noted all three areas of the downtown have a unique
� perspective. V�a seemed to capture that quality and utilize it to the fullest extent. He noted that
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the review of the proposals was done by Superintendent of Downtown Maintenance Gorniak,
`-' Assistant City Administrator Hobson who is heavily involved in the Riverwalk, and himself,
providing input particularly from his expertise as a planner. He noted the proposal submitted by
Via was Via's first attempt in capturing the qualities of the community as explained to their
representative� by Staff. He noted the Via proposal is very creative and they "think outside the
box".
Superintendent Gorniak noted Staff inet onsite with Western Remac and it took a long time for
them to send � drawing back for review. Via was extremely impressive. Although Remac is
closer geographically to the City, the Via proposal was preferred as it seemed to capture the
essence of the City's need to put a "footprint" on its downtown districts. He opined the City
needs to do so�nething distinctive. He noted it may be good to have three distinct color schemes
for each of the three downtown districts.
Assistant City .Administrator Hobson noted the Via proposal was done before the representatives
even came to visit the community. They were able to create drawings which captured the essence
of the community just by listening to Staff's words of explanation of their desire for defining the
community footprint through its sign package.
Alderman Santi inquired if the sign design standards would be compatible with the light fixtures
in each of the downtown districts. Superintendent Gorniak responded the sign bases and poles
would mirror existing light fixture standards. Alderman Santi stated the signs should be
coordinated to melt into the area so that the signs are comfortably noticeable. He inquired if there
\.. is a City color. Assistant City Administrator Hobson stated there is no official color but the
tendency leans toward blue, as evidenced in the City logo, letterhead, etc.
Some discussion occurred regarding ways to offer direction to visitors. Superintendent Gorniak
noted the City of Woodstock places maps on the back of its parking signs in its public lots.
Chairman Condon noted businessman Perry Moy had requested signage several years ago. She
opined when the City is prepared to move forward with its kiosks, this would likely address
concerns similar to those expressed by Mr. Moy. Assistant City Administrator Hobson noted the
kiosk would fall into the second category of signs which would be installed as City funding
became available. At this time there is money in the Tourism Fund set aside which would
accommodate the nine wa�nding signs only.
Alderman Pete1•son stated he has always been envious of Woodstock with its single downtown
district. The City of McHenry has three distinct downtown areas but they need to be intertwined
in some way to tie them together through signage.
Responding to an inquiry, Assistant City Administrator Hobson stated the City would utilize trail
blazer signs to help visitors and let them know they are heading in the right direction.
Chairman Condon noted highlighting the historic districts on the wayfinding signs will help to
make the City'� signs unique.
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Alderman Peterson inquired if Via was advanced enough to move forward with technological
�-' virtual tours in the future. Assistant City Administrator Hobson responded the company is on the
cutting edge. A.s far as virtual tours, that matter is not being discussed at this time. Via is focused
solely on designing the City's sign package.
Deputy City A�ministrator Martin noted the City has to make it as easy as possible for visitors to
find what they are looking for so that they do not get frustrated and look elsewhere to meet their
needs.
Discussion followed regarding the proposed sign package and installation. Assistant City
Administrator Hobson stated it is important to have a turnkey operation. In the case of Via their
representatives would meet with IDOT, their employees would pour the foundation, etc. They
would be undertaking the complete operation of the sign installation project. This is an important
facet to their proposal.
Alderman Santi inquired if the signs would state "Green Street — Historic Centerville", for
example. Assistant City Administrator Hobson responded in the affirmative. It is important to
retain the historic flavor of each of the downtown districts.
Chairman Concion inquired if Council would have final approval before the signs are ordered and
installed. Deputy City Administrator Martin responded in the affirmative.
Alderman Santi inquired why there would be nine wa�nding signs. Superintendent Gorniak
�.- responded Staff believes that there are nine key places to locate signs in the main intersecting
corridors in town. Assistant City Administrator Hobson stated there would be six signs in the
downtown and the remaining three would be placed at busiest intersections further out from the
downtown. He opined the City needs to create good balance without overdoing the sign display.
Alderman Santi stated he does not understand the need for the $3,500 upgrade option. Assistant
City Administrator Hobson responded if this option is accepted, the design for all of the signs in
the comprehensive sign package would be designed at the same time, even though the only signs
being purchased and installed at this time would be the wa�nding signs. The City could then
request kiosk or trail blazer signs in the future and they would already have been designed as part
of the initial package.
Chairman Condon opined she would rather pay for the design of the entire sign package at this
time and have it done as a complete package.
Alderman Peterson inquired where the money would come from to pay for the project. Assistant
City Administrator Hobson responded $60,000 has been set aside in the Tourism Fund. The
money has been targeted for this use.
Responding to an inquiry, Deputy City Administrator Martin stated revisions could be made to
the sign design during the review process. There would be input from Staff and Council during
the process.
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Alderman Santi inquired if the Via proposal included the time necessary to refine the sign
� design. Assist�nt City Administrator Hobson responded the goal was to spend less on the design
aspect so that tnore money could be utilized to construct and install the signs.
Chairman Condon inquired if both Aldermen Santi and Peterson were comfortable with the Via
proposal and if the sign package design was headed in the right direction. Both Aldermen
responded in t}ie affirmative.
Motion by Sar ti, seconded by Peterson, to approve the proposal from Via Wayf'inding Systems
including the rase design fee of$5,500, nine wa�nding signs at $4,940/sign, and to include the
optional desigti upgrade for $3,500, for a total not-to-exceed amount of$54,460, and to forward
the matter to City Council for final approval.
Voting Aye: Santi, Peterson, Condon.
Voting Nay: None.
Absent: None.
Motion carried.
Chairman Condon opined the installation of wa�nding signs would be a great enhancement to
the community.
Discussion: Historic Neighborhood Banners
`.. Deputy City Administrator Martin stated the City's Landmark Commission has been attempting
to create a Historic District or an Historic Neighborhood. Finding the public is not in favor of
such a designation, the Landmark Commission decided to find an alternative avenue to highlight
the historic areas of town. To that end they have come up with Historic Neighborhood Banners
which could be displayed in both the commercial and residential area of the three old-time
districts: Gagetown (Main Street), Centerville (Green Street) and Water Street (Riverside Drive).
Staff believes this would be a less aggressive way to educate the community regarding the
existing historic structures in town. The Commission is suggesting that identifying banners be
installed in the three historic neighborhoods. He noted the design of the banners presented this
evening was approved by the Landmark Commission.
Alderman Peterson stated if this is the direction the City wants to take then there is a need to
establish the three distinct districts and they should be recognized as indicated on the banners. He
opined the style of the banners can be linked between districts but there should be subtle
differences that define each distinct area as each is unique.
Alderman Santi stressed the need for continuity. He stated he would like to see the historic
neighborhood banners tie into the design of the wa�nding signs. He opined tying in the City
logo on the neighborhood banners is appropriate.
Chairman Condon inquired who designed the banners. Deputy City Administrator Martin
responded the banners were designed by a firm who has previously designed street banners for
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the City in the I�ast. Responding to further inquiry, he noted the cost to pay for the banners would
`— initially come c�ut of the Landmark Commission budget.
Responding to Alderman Santi's inquiry, Assistant City Administrator Hobson noted there
would be apprc,ximately four banners in each historic district. Superintendent Gorniak noted he
would like to s�,e four banners on Green Street, four banners on Main Street and eight banners on
Riverside Drivt;.
Chairman Condon inquired if the banners would be permanently mounted. Superintendent
Gorniak replie�i in the affirmative although they would likely fade and have to be replaced in
about three years.
Chairman Conclon stated she would prefer that the fonts on the banners compliment or match the
fonts utilized on the wa�nding signs. She opined installing the banners is a great idea and
would meet the needs of the Landmark Commission and the community as far as highlighting
historic districts in the City.
In response to a question from Chairman Condon, Deputy City Administrator Martin noted Staff
is seeking consensus as to the installation of historic neighborhood banners and that the banners
could be installed following the approval of the final design of the wa�nding sign package in
order to coordi�iate the overall signage in the City.
It was the consensus of the Committee that Staff proceed with the Historic Neighborhood
L. Banners as discussed.
Discussion: Temporary Signs and Banners
Deputy City Administrator Martin noted Staff has had an issue with businesses posting
temporary signs and banners without benefit of a building permit. The ordinance currently
provides for a 14-day window during which unlawful or non-permitted signs must be removed. It
is Staff's recommendation that the 14-day period be reduced to five days in order to secure
compliance within five days of the violation. He noted Staff has encountered various businesses
who post a temporary sale banner, Staff sends a violation notice, the business maintains the
offending sign for 14 days, and then removes it. However, the event has already been advertised
with an unlawful sign for 14 days. Staff is seeking approval to recommend amending the Zoning
Ordinance to require compliance within five days.
Chairman Condon opined the sign should be removed or brought into compliance within three
days. Alderman Santi concurred.
Alderman Peterson inquired if the reference is to commercial signs only. Deputy City
Administrator Martin responded the temporary signs being discussed are used when people want
to draw attention to something or a specific event (sale, etc). He noted the signs or banners are
posted in both commercial or residential districts.
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Motion by Santi, seconded by Peterson, to recommend to City Council that a proposed
`— amendment relating to the period of compliance for unlawful and/or non-permitted temporary
signs be reduce�d from 14 days to three days be sent to the Planning and Zoning Commission for
Public Hearing.
Voting Aye: 5anti, Peterson, Condon.
Voting Nay: (�1one.
Absent: '��Tone.
Motion carried
Other Business
Chairman Concion noted the ice cream truck is again being parked in the driveway of a residence
on Crystal Lake Road. She expressed concern regarding such a vehicle being parked in the
residential district. She noted this is a repeat offense as this individual has been cited on
previous occasions regarding the removal of the ice cream truck from the property. She inquired
if the City has an ordinance or could, in the absence of one, create an ordinance whereby those
repeatedly being cited for a violation could be ticketed. She opined this matter would go along
with the nuisance abatement ordinance discussed earlier this evening.
Deputy City Administrator Martin responded a citation can be issued to a repeat offender. The
matter would then continue through the administrative adjudication process.
� Chairman Condon inquired if the City could draft an ordinance that would allow Staff to go after
repeat offenders.
Alderman Peterson inquired if Chairman Condon was upset because it was an ice cream truck or
because it is "lettered" (has signage displayed on it). Deputy City Administrator Martin noted
currently commercial vehicles cannot be parked on a residential property, and, if they are, they
must be under cover. He stated this matter was recently discussed with this Committee and is
now being considered by the Planning and Zoning Commission for recommendation to Council.
Chairman Concion opined the ice cream truck on the premises is different than a work vehicle
being stored on a site.
Deputy City Administrator updated the Committee regarding:
• Buddyz is hoping for a soft opening in mid-July;
• Elgin Health Clinic has approached Staff regarding opening a low-income/no income
health clinic in the City. They are conducting their due diligence and have been awarded
grant monies in order to construct a new facility. They are looking at building the clinic
in McHenry, where they have determined it is really needed.
• The next meeting is scheduled for August 24, 2010 with the following matters to be
discussed:
Snow Shoveling Ordinance;
Temporary Use Permit Application;
�. Form outlining drive-in regulations;
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� Residential setbacks for garages.
Adiournment
Motion by Petfxson, seconded by Santi, to adjourn the meeting at 8:40 p.m.
Voting Aye: Santi, Peterson, Condon.
Voting Nay: None.
Absent: None.
Motion carried.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Geraldine A Condon, Chairman
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