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PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE MEETING
TUESDAY, JULY 21, 1998 7:00 P.M.
Clerk's Office and McHenry Municipal Center
Administration
(815) 363-2100 Aldermen's Conference Room
Fax(815)363-2119
Public Works,
Building and Zoning
(815) 363-2170 A G E N D A
Fax(815)363-2173
Pazks and
Recreation
(815) 363-2160
Fax(815)363-2173 � , Irish Prairie Roads
Police
(Non-Emergency) 2, Millstream Sidewalk/Pyndale Street Light
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�„015)363-2149
3. Paving Program
Mayor
Steven J.Cuda 4. McCullom Lake Road Speed Study
City Clerk
PamelaJ.Althoff 5, Report on One-Hour Traffic Counts:
'h�easurer A. Crystal Lake Road/Royal Drive
DavidM.Welter B. Crystal Lake Road/Kensington Drive
Aldermen C. Oakwood Drive/Kensington Drive
D. Royal Drive/Oakwood Drive
WARDI
William J.Bolger
� 6. Discuss Fee for Special Movement Permits
WARD 2 '
Andrew A.Glab
7. Any and All Matters Which May Properly Come Before t e
WARD 3 Committee
Frank S.McClatchey �
WARD 4
Steven C.Murgatroyd ;;;`�'�^-' C�-�{/!
WARD 5 �
William V.Baird , � �
' Pamela J. Althoff
City Clerk
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PUBLIC WORKS COMMITTEE
MINUTES
July 21, 1998
MembE�rs Present : Chairman Alderman Bolger, Alderman
Baird, Alderman Glab
Other�s Present : City Clerk Althoff, City Administrator
Lobaito, Director of Public Works Batt,
Alderman McClatchey arrived at 7 :20 p.m.
Residents : Curtis Riper 4405 Shamrock
Margaret Gewecke 4316 Shamrock
Mary Rossi 4305 Shamrock
Public Wor-ks Committee Chairman Alderman Bolger called the
meeting tc� order at 7 : 05 p.m. He noted this meeting' s agenda
included several items . He noted the first agenda item, the
request by John and Brian Cunat to dedicate the Shamrock Lane
circle drive to the City of McHenry be postponed. John and Brian
Cunat had been invited to attend this evening' s meeting and were
not yet in attendance . The Committee concurred.
MILLSTREAM SIDEWALK/PYNDALE STREET LIGHT REQUESTS
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Director of Public Works Batt explained how numerous residential
requests for public improvements can cause staffing and funding
dilemmas �or council . He cited Lakeland Park drainage
improvemeiits and sidewalk installations as two such requests . He
noted addytional improvement requests are currently being
considered by council, including Millstream sidewalk
installat�on, the Pyndale streetlight installation, the paving of
Northside Avenue, and McHenry Shores streetlight installations .
He requested the committee consider establishing a policy and/or
procedure to handle these types of improvement requests . Some
discussion followed.
In response to Alderman Bolger' s inquiry, Director Batt explained
the scope of the Millstream sidewalk installation. He stated the
sidewalk would be extended from the bridge south to Route 120 .
The sidewalk' s installation is further complicated by drainage
issues . The demand for sidewalks in this area has increased as
younger families, with small children, desire pedestrian access
to Freund Park. Alderman Bolger noted he had received similar
sidewalk installation requests for Maple Avenue .
Director Batt suggested council and staff differentiate between
maintenance requests and improvement requests . Many improvement
requests should be conducted as Special Assessment or Special
, � Service p:rojects . A lengthy discussion ensued.
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In response to Alderman Bolger' s inquiry Director Batt stated
federal monies are available for many of these improvement
projects, however the payback mechanism is slow and onerous . In
addition nany times the funding amount is small .
Alderman Clab opined the Millstream sidewalk installation and the
Pyndale street light installation are two different issues . The
Millstrearr sidewalk installation is distinctly an improvement
whereas the Pyndale street light installation is the correction
of a subdivision development error. Some discussion followed.
In response to inquiry Director Batt reported the street light
installation cost is approximately $2395 . Commonwealth Edison
completes all work except for the landscape restoration.
Alderman Baird opined there would be a significant decrease in
improvement projects if left to the approval, for a special
assessment or service area, by the affected property owner. He
opined further it was the responsibility of the elected council
to allocate tax dollar monies for these types of improvement
projects and not require additional tax dollars and/or monies
from property owners . He stated taxpayers today expect
government to do more with less . Director Batt stated the
question in consideration is whether the affected property owners
`' should benefit at the expense of all city property owners .
Alderman McClatchey arrived at 7 :20 p.m.
City Administrator Lobaito suggested the committee consider
addressing such requests twice a year in committee . Some
discussion followed.
IRISH PRAIRIE/CUNAT REQUEST
Director of Public Works Batt informed the committee City
Administrator Lobaito received a letter from John Cunat, back in
November of 1997, requesting the City of McHenry accept the
Shamrock Lane private road as well as the water/sewer utility
improvements . It was noted, although invited, neither John or
Brian Cunat was in attendance . Director Batt stated it was never
the City of McHenry' s intent to accept the private street,
however obtaining the utilities would be desirable. Some
discussion followed.
Director Batt noted the current private road was not built to
subdivision specifications, specifically the roadway' s width. It
is believed the road' s width was reduced to discourage street
parking. Director Batt suggested as the reduced width was a
benefit to the developer some monetary concession for the City of
� McHenry be considered.
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In response to committee inquiry Director Batt stated the
utilities are sized correctly. Staff supports the acceptance of
the water/sewer utilities noting the utilities should be under
the management and maintenance of the City of McHenry for
practical considerations .
Alderman Bolger suggested the utilities be accepted along with a
substantial monetary donation to be used toward the installation
of a traffic signal at the Shamrock Lane and U.S . Route 31
intersection. Additional requirements would include the removal
of the gate house and a full inspection of the utilities . All
repairs would be at the expense of the Cunats and completed prior
to the conveyance to the City. Some discussion followed
regarding the Cunat contribution amount . The committee alluded
to a six figure amount .
Alderman Baird expressed reservations regarding the private road
acceptance . He noted the road was currently in a state of
disrepair and the city would incur on-going maintenance costs .
Alderman Glab expressed interest in obtaining comments and
opinions from the Irish Prairie Homeowners as well as other area
property owners regarding the City of McHenry' s possible
acceptance of these utilities and the private street . Some
concerns were expressed by the residents in attendance altho they
`- expressed overall support for the City' s acceptance of the street
and utilities . The committee discussed on-going street
maintenance costs for the Shamrock Lane private street . Alderman
Glab state3 he would not support the maintenance of a street
which served only a specified number of property owners .
Alderman Baird concurred noting the acceptance of this private
street would set a precedent . He reminded the committee of the
numerous requests received to accept other private streets and
the conscience decision of council to prohibit any new private
roadway development .
It was the consensus of council to obtain more information from
John and Brian Cunat before making a recommendation to council
regarding this issue . Staff was directed to invite, in writing,
John and Brian Cunat to the next Public Works Committee Meeting.
The committee will review this item again at that time .
Shamrock Lane resident, Mary Rossi, addressed the committee
thanking them for their consideration of accepting the
water/sewer utilities and private street as well as urging them
to reevaluate the Bull Valley Road egress option from Irish
Prairie .
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PYNDALE STREETLIGHT INSTALLATION
Alderman Bolger supported Alderman Glab' s request for the
installation of a streetlight on Pyndale in the 4900 block.
Alderman Glab stated all the residents in this area supported the
installation. Alderman Baird expressed concerns correcting a
single issue which affected such a small segment of the city' s
population.
In response to Alderman Bolger' s inquiry, staff stated the
installation was not covered under Motor Fuel Tax revenues .
Alderman Baird supported City Administrator Lobaito' s
recommendation to review these types of requests twice a year at
the committee level . He noted council could better evaluate
which projects to approve and review the total cost of these
improvement requests annually.
Alderman Glab again stated the installation of a streetlight on
Pyndale was the correction of a subdivision control ordinance
violation by a developer. A lengthy discussion followed.
It was the consensus of the committee to permit Alderman Baird an
opportunity to view the area and address the resolution of this
� issue at the next scheduled Public Works Committee Meeting.
Alderman McClatchey requested the committee address the
Millstream sidewalk installation request . Director Batt stated
again the issue was complicated because of drainage problems as
well as consideration of Millstream Avenue within the proposed
street pro�ram.
In response to committee inquiry Director Batt noted Millstream
Avenue improvements, as part of an FAU Route, qualify for federal
monies . Some discussion followed regarding funding and the lack
of budgeted monies for this specific project . Alderman
McClatchey suggested the installation of sidewalks along only one
side of Millstream. Staff stated drainage was yet an issue .
Further discussion followed. Director Batt suggested approving
an expenditure for preliminary engineering. An estimated project
cost could be provided and included in the 1999-2000 budget .
Director Batt also noted he would be investigating the Village of
Mount Prospect' s streets management program including a visit to
the Village the week of July 27th. Information obtained will
subsequently be provided council .
Alderman McClatchey stated the installation of sidewalks on
Millstream was more a safety issue and the budget reflects
approximately $25, 000 to resolve this request . City
� Administrator Lobaito stated if council ultimately approved this
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sidewalk installation project, additional areas needing sidewalks
should be considered. Bids could then be sought for a total
project cost not to exceed the budgeted $25, 000 .
Alderman Glab stated his opposition to installing the Millstream
sidewalks at grade. He opined if approved the project should be
completed correctly including any needed drainage corrections .
He also recommended increasing the streets program by the $25, 000
allocated for sidewalks .
City Administrator Lobaito suggested staff obtain grades for the
designated Millstream sidewalk installation area. Determination
can then be made as to proceed with the installation. If it is
the recommendation of the committee and subsequently full council
to proceed with the Millstream sidewalk installation other
sidewalk installations totalling $25, 000 should be considered.
A complete bid packet could then be developed and bids sought .
The committee concurred with City Administrator Lobaito' s
suggestion. Staff was directed to obtain information regarding
the draina��e issue on Millstream and other sidewalk installation
areas subm.itting recommendations to the committee at the next
public works committee meeting.
`' Further discussion ensued regarding the development of an
acceptable procedure to handle these types of improvement
requests . It was the consensus of the committee to direct City
Administrat=or Lobaito to develop a policy, including criteria,
requiring t:he appropriate committee (s) to review, twice a
calendar yE�ar, individual public improvement requests . Any
request wh�ch encompasses a safety issue or might be considered a
special assessment/special services area can be addressed, at any
time, as a regularly scheduled council meeting agenda item.
PAVING PROGRAM
Director of Public Works Batt reported staff, in the process of
preparing bid documents for the paving of Northside Avenue,
Riverside Drive and the Municipal Building parking lot calculated
a new estimated project cost of $103 , 000 which is $3 , 000 above
the 1998-99 budget amount . Staff discovered the need to maintain
an appropriate height of exposed curb in the Municipal Building' s
parking lot which required the inclusion of pavement milling in
the bid specifications . This milling inclusion increased the
Municipal Building' s paving project cost from $50, 000 to $65, 000 .
Director Batt noted however, the estimated project cost for
Riverside Drive and Northside Avenue was approximately $12 , 000
less than reflected in the 1998-99 budget . With a 3a increase
over budget staff supports a committee recommendation to proceed
� with advertising for bids. Some discussion followed regarding
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the possibility of obtaining a better bid amount if bids were to
be sought in February. Staff recommended going forward noting if
council determined the bids were too high, the project could be
rebid in February. It was the consensus of committee to
recommend to full council this project, the paving of the
Municipal Building lot, Riverside Drive and Northside Avenue be
advertised for bid.
Alderman Glab inquired as to the need to provide an alternative
ingress and egress to the Municipal Building during the Green
Street Phase III construction and the parking lot' s repaving.
City Administrator noted the terms of the Green Street Phase III
project in�luded a provision requiring one lane on Green Street
be kept op�n at all times . Further discussion followed with no
formal action taken. City Administrator Lobaito stated his
intent to keep council appraised of this situation.
McCULLOM LAKE ROAD SPEED STUDY
Director B�tt reminded the committee council, at their regularly
scheduled ��ctober 30, 1996 meeting, had directed staff to conduct
a speed st�.zdy on McCullom Lake Road after the Olde Mill Ponds
subdivisio� was substantially under construction. Staff is
`' seeking committee recommendation as to proceed with the second
study in a;� effort to reduce the currently posted 45mph limit .
Alderman B��lger stated his support for a reduction in the speed
limit on M��Cullom Lake Road to 35mph. Aldermen Glab and Baird
stated the:ir opposition to any speed limit reductions unless
warranted. Some discussion followed. It was the direction of
the committee to proceed with the speed study for this area.
Alderman Bolger also noted no speed limit signs were posted on
the north side of Bull Valley Road. Staff was directed to
contact the McHenry County Highway Department and request
correction of this matter. In addition staff was asked to
inquiry into the feasibility of a speed limit reduction on Bull
Valley Road between Crystal Lake Road and Route 31 .
TRAFFIC COUNT SURVEY
Director Batt reminded the committee staff, at the regularly
scheduled June 3, 1998 council meeting had been directed to
conduct traffic studies at the following intersections :
-Oakwood and Kensington
-Oakwood and Royal Drive
-Crystal Lake Avenue and Royal Drive
Director Batt reported only the Crystal Lake Avenue and Royal
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Drive intersection warrant a traffic signal . Director Batt
stated this intersection may warrant a traffic light and
recommended further study. He also stated the Oakwood and
Kensington intersection may reach levels requiring additional
controls, however currently this intersection does not meet
warrants .
A proposal from Smith Engineering for the development of a
traffic light at the Crystal Lake road and Royal Drive
intersection has been requested. The proposal which includes the
construction of the signal is $46, 000 . Director Batt suggested
the committee recommend to full council the performance of a
warrant analysis for this intersection at a cost not to exceed
$3 , 175 . If warrants are met monies, approximately $25, 000 could
be included in the 1999-2000 budget for design work. In addition
Smith Engineering should be considered and designated, if
appropriate, Engineering Project Consultants . Some discussion
followed regarding the Lillian Street and Crystal Lake Road
intersection traffic signal . In response to committee inquiry,
Alderman Bolger could not recall the events leading to this
traffic signal' s installation. Director Batt stated this traffic
signal, the proposed signals at Dartmoor and Crystal Lake Road
� and the Royal Drive and Crystal Lake Road intersections would be
linked togsther if and when installed.
It was the consensus of the committee to recommend to full
council the performance, by Smith Engineering, of a warrant
analysis for the intersection of Crystal Lake Road and Royal
Drive at a cost not to exceed $3 , 175 . Alderman Glab suggested
this matter be brought back for full council consideration after
the completion of the Comprehensive Plan update .
SPECIAL MOVEMENT PERMITS
Director Batt informed council the Public Works Department
periodically during the construction season, receives requests
for special movement permits . A special movement permit is
required when a vehicle exceeds height, length or weight
restrictions imposed by the State of Illinois . Currently these
vehicles may traverse City Streets without a special movement
permit and no fee is assessed if a permit is issued. Director
Batt estimated 990 of the permit requests are handled via fax.
Therefore, it is the recommendation of staff to assess an annual
permit fee for all vehicles, by company, in the following manner:
$50 . 00 vehicles 108, 000 lbs and under
$100 . 00 vehicles 108, 001 lbs to 165, 000 lbs
For vehicles in excess of 165, 000 lbs an individual
permit per vehicle of $50 . 00 shall be required.
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Director Batt noted both McHenry County and the State of Illinois
charge fees for the issuance of a special movement permit . Some
discussion followed. It was the consensus of the committee to
approve tre development of a process and fee structure to require
Special Mcvement Permits within the corporate limits of the City
of McHenry . Staff was directed to develop the process, criteria
and appropriate fee structure for further committee review.
ANY AND ALL MATTERS
Alderman Bolger expressed concerns with regard to the continuing
erosion along the creek between Ann and Grove Streets . He
requested staff investigate the matter and advise a remedy if
possible . Director Batt noted this area is private property and
permission will need to be obtained for access . City
Administrator Lobaito stated City Inspector Marcinko and NIPC
representative Kirschner would be asked to investigate the matter
more thoroughly.
Alderman Glab expressed concerns with regard to the paths of
Whispering Oaks stating these pathways have not been maintained
since their installation. He requested permission to present a
short video of this area for committee review. Some discussion
� followed regarding the advisability of maintaining all the
pathways or abandoning those less traveled. Staff was directed
to obtain cost estimates for the repair of these pathways . In
addition the committee requested staff develop a long-term
maintenance plan for these pathways . Alderman Bolger suggested
repairing and/or resurfacing two paths each year.
Further discussion occurred regarding the overall beautification
of the City of McHenry, specifically the City parks .
Motion by Glab, seconded by Baird to adjourn at 9 :40 p.m.
Voting Aye : Bolger, Baird, Glab
Voting Nay: None
Absent : None
Motion carried.
The meeting was adjourned at 9 :40 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
William J. Bol r, Chai an
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