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MEETING REPORT
October 3, 2016
`- McHenry Municipal Center Council Chambers
In Attendance: Committee Members: Chairman Alderman Schaefer, Alderman Wimmer and
Alderman Glab. Absent: None. Also in Attendance: Director of Public Warks Schmitt, Street
Division Superintendent Scott Schweda, Administrative Assistant Nancy Lorch, and Deputy City
Clerk Geraghty. Others present: Chris Alm, Tom Sundstrum, and Vaughn Kuerschner,
representing Waste Management.
1. Call to Order: Chairman Schaefer called the meeting to order at 5:30 PM.
2. Public Input:
None.
3. Motio�i to approve the June 20, 2016 Public Works Committee meetin�report.
Motio�l by Wimmer, second by Glab to approve the June 20, 2016 Public Works
Committee meeting report as presented.
Voting Aye: Wimmer, Glab, Schaefer
Voting Nay: None
Not Voting: None
� Abstaining: None
Absent: None
Motion carried.
4. Discussion on proposed amendments to the Honorary Street SiQn Policv and direction to
send amendments to the full City Council for consideration.
Chairnian Schaefer asked Director Schmitt to begin the discussion. Director Schmitt
stated at the direction of the committee, Street Superintendent Schweda reviewed
honorary street sign policies from other municipalities. Based on the committee's input
at the June 20th meeting, staff presented the following possible amendments to the current
policy:
• Limit honorary street designation to 10-years with no eligibility for renewal.
• Add language that no more than three honorary signs will be awarded per
calendar year with no exceptions.
• Revise the city's current policy of reviewing applications on a first come first
basis and consider adding language that applications will be accepted January lst
through December 31 St, of the current calendar year and all applications will be
considered by the Public Works Committee during the first quarter of the
following year with no more than three recommended to the full City Council.
�, Discussion ensued on the proposed amendments. Alderman Glab stated he was in
agreement with the revised process as proposed.
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Aldernian Wimmer asked if December 31 St would be the deadline date to submit
applications for this year, assuming the policy would be amended prior to December 315t
`-- Since this year is almost over, Alderman Schaefer proposed the committee continue to
accept applications up to the end of the first quarter 2017; and then proceed with closing
the acceptance of applications at the end of each calendar year thereafter. He also
suggested including the amended policy, if approved, in the upcoming city newsletter.
Director Schmitt reminded the committee only one designation was available in 2017, as
two designations for 2017 were previously approved.
Aldernian Schaefer asked Superintendent Schweda if he found stronger language
regarding the criteria requirement in other policies and he answered no.
Aldernian Glab asked what is meant by "proof of significant lineage to the city," as
required in the current policy under Criteria for Review Item #2, adding he interprets it to
mean the designee must have a long family history in the city. A discussion ensued on
the definition of lineage. Alderman Schaefer said clearly defining language throughout
the policy would assist with decision-making.
Chairman Schaefer asked if applications not considered in a given year would be held for
consideration in the following year or would they be eliminated adding it may not be a
bad idea to allow applicants a second chance. Director Schmitt answered applications
would not be held over however they may reapply the following year.
All members of the committee agreed to limit honorary street designations to 10-years
� with no eligibility for renewal.
Alderman Schaefer noted this policy is used mostly for the benefit of individuals, and
asked if the city has ever considered honoring groups and organizations as done in some
other municipalities. Director Schmitt noted the current policy states the city provides
citizens with an opportunity to honor people and/or family members; it is his opinion this
includes groups and organizations. Aldertnan Glab expressed his opinion regarding
designations for Veterans stating this is the purpose of Veterans Memorial Park.
Director Schmitt summarized the direction of the Committee to present proposed
amendments of the Honorary Street Sign Policy to the full City Council for consideration
as follows:
• Designations will be in effect for 10 years with no eligibility for renewal.
• Current designations will expire 10 years after the date the amended policy is
approved by the full City Council.
• Based on approval of the amended policy this year, the city will accept
applications submitted in 2016 until the end of March 2017, at which time all
applications will be brought before the Committee for review.
• Applications received April 1, through December 31, 2017, and each calendar
year thereafter (Jan — Dec), will be presented to the Committee before the end of
March the following year.
�- • Clarify language in CRITERIA FOR REVIEW Item 2. Proof of significant
lineage to the City.
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Aldernlan Glab made a motion, seconded by Alderman Wimmer to present the
`- committee's recommendations as discussed for consideration by the full City Council.
Voting Aye: Glab, Wimmer, Schaefer
Voting Nay: None
Not Voting: None
Abstaining: None
Absent: None
Motion carried.
5. Review proposal to extend contract with Waste Management for residential waste
haulin� services and direction to send�roposal to the full Citv Council for consideration
Chairman Schaefer asked Director Schmitt to begin the discussion. Director Schmitt
reported Waste Management has been under contract with the city to provide exclusive
residential waste hauling services since August 1, 2012. The approved contract expires
July 31, 2017, with an option to extend for an additional five-year term based on a future
negotiated rate. The three options presented by Waste Management:
A. Sticker Program Proposal
B. All Cart Program with Yard Waste Sticker & Saturday Drop Off Service
C. All Cart Program eliminating Yard Waste Sticker & Saturday Drop Off Service
`-- replaced with unlimited yard waste pickup at your door
Services included in all three proposals:
• Weekly refuse service including one-bulk item
• White goods pickup for$50 per item, must be prescheduled
• Free curbside leaf collection
• Christmas tree collection for two weeks in January
• Program brochure development and mailing to residents
• "At Your poor" program offer for $1.25/home/month billed to residents; all
residents must partic�pate
• Waste Watch program offer
• 3% annual increase starting the second year of the five-year extension
Director Schmitt said staff is of the opinion Option #C is the most attractive option and
distributes the cost of the leaf collection and Christmas tree pickup more evenly to all
residents.
At this time Director Schmitt introduced the representatives from Waste Management
present at the meeting: Chris Alm, Vaughn Kuerschner, and Tom Sundstrom who
brought the proposed refuse carts to the meeting so the committee could see the different
�-- sizes offered in Option C: 96 gal., 64 gal., and 35 gal. (only available to residents 65
years and older).
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Director Schmitt informed the committee that Option C would provide residents enrolled
� in the current 96 gal. cart program who pay $29.84/month, a 33% decrease in their
monthly bill; at the end of the five-year contract, that cost will be still be less at $22.57.
Aldernlan Glab asked how Director Schmitt calculated the savings and he answered the
calculation was based on the current rate for the large cart. Mr. Kuerschner from Waste
Management added Option C with the 96 gal. cart provides households with unlimited
refuse, which includes the cart and bags or containers with handles. The amount of
refuse permitted utilizing the 64 gal. cart and the 35 gal. cart (available only to residents
65 years and older), is limited to the cart only.
Director Schmitt stated Public Works receives requests from residents requesting larger
recycling carts and during the first month of the extended contract, Waste Management is
offering no exchange costs to upgrade from a 64 gal. recycling cart to a 96 gal. cart.
After the first month there will be a $30 fee. Requests have also been received for a
second cart, which Waste Management is offering for rent at an additional $3/month.
Director Schmitt stated he is of the opinion that eliminating the Saturday waste drop off
site in exchange for weekly curbside yard waste pickup would better serve residents.
Alderman Glab expressed his concern about how the community would look with carts,
� and yard waste in front of all the houses. He said sometimes carats are placed in front of
houses days before pickup and other homeowners fail to store them in areas not visible
from the front of the house. He added that by eliminating the yard waste drop off people
would dump yard waste in the front of their yards. Ms. Lorch commented yard waste
would be in containers with the exception of branches that would be required to be
bundled. Alderman Glab added every single week we would see all of this in front of
houses; more than what is currently out there now. Director Schmitt agreed residents
would use the yard waste option more often if it were at the curb however because it is
used more, residents would do a better job at keeping their yard clean.
Alderman Wimmer said he thinks using carts and curbside yard waste pickup makes
sense.
Alderman Glab asked how we would bill residents for the cart. Director Schmitt said
residents would receive a bill from Waste Management. Alderman Glab asked if we
would have to create an ordinance to force people to accept and pay for the cart. Mr.
Kuerschner said accounts are setup using a resident list provided by the municipality.
Director Schmitt asked Waste Management how they would enforce participation in the
all cart program and how would they address someone who ignores their bill. Mr.
Kuerschner said in any type of program like this all residents participate. Potentially you
could have someone who does not pay their bill but they would not be able to dispose of
�-- their garbage. Alderman Glab said they could get rid of it at work, take it to a rental
property, or dump it on the side of the road.
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Aldernlan Glab asked why anyone would want to pay $20.05 a month for a cart.
`-' Basically it's like using a sticker four times a month or $5 a sticker. He said he uses a
sticker about every three weeks in a two person household. The condos in Whispering
Oaks are occupied mostly by seniors in one or two person households and he rarely sees
bags out each week. Mr. Alm noted seniors (age 65 and over) would now have an
opportunity to dispose of their garbage every week. Alderman Glab noted it would cost
him $18.44 more a month to use a cart and he is now spending $3.99 every three or four
weeks.
Director Schmitt asked Waste Management what the estimated cost for a sticker would
be if the city did not alter its current program. Mr. Kuerschner said if the city selected
Option A, there would be a monthly base fee of $5.95 billed quarterly plus the sticker
cost of$3.70 per sticker. If Waste Management continued with the current program and
just had a sticker, the estimated sticker cost would be $7.15 to cover the cost for all of the
services. Alderman Glab suggested going out for RFP's and negotiating. Mr.
Kuerschner added there are many benefits of going to the all-cart program. The wheeled
cart is easier for the elderly to get to the curb; it's safer for residents and Waste
Management drivers. He added the trend is going to cart service.
Alderman Glab said he is against the proposed program because it is an astronomical
increase for many residents who do not put trash out every week and do not have enough
� garbage to fill a tote each week. He does agree it would be beneficial to have garbage
picked up each week, but the cost is significantly more and we do not have any
comparisons of what other communities are paying. He also said forcing carts on the
community would anger many.
Alderman Schaefer said he has the same concern after speaking with residents, not just
seniors who really don't see an issue with not getting rid of their trash each week. And,
many of the people he spoke with also commented about the recent increase in water and
sewer rates.
Mr. Kuerschner said currently, approximately 3,300 people in McHenry are using a cart,
which is close to 40%. Alderman Glab said he would estimate that is much lower in his
neighborhood. Mr. Sundstrom added in Lakeland Park, Martin Woods, and Brittany
Park, most residents use 96 gal. carts. Mr. Kuerschner further stated whenever a city
changes a program there is some push-back. Sticker rates cover all the programs. As the
sticker rate goes up fewer stickers are sold until the rate becomes significantly higher
because Waste Management has to cover their costs for all the services they provide.
Alderman Schaefer asked if there was any additional cost to Waste Management for
people who only put garbage out once a month. Mr. Kuerschner said no there is not
however when the original contract was quoted, it was based on the anticipation of a
� certain number of stickers that would be sold, which has not materialized. McHenry buys
about 30% of what was projected in the RFP. Also, as the rate of the stickers increases
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each year, less people are buying them. Alderman Schaefer commented that we do not
know if it is less people buying the stickers or fewer stickers sold.
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Alderman Glab asked staff if they ever considered making the yard waste drop off site
accessible only after residents purchase a special permit. Director Schmitt answered all
residents share the cost to maintain the drop off site when they purchase a sticker.
Alderman Schaefer asked Waste Management if they have other communities who have a
yard v��aste drop off and they answered no. Alderman Schaefer asked if other
municipalities have a drop off that Waste Management picks up only once a month.
Waste Management representatives stated it would not be a good idea to operate an
unmanned drop off and it would be difficult to determine the cost for the service.
Alderman Schaefer asked if the city covered the cost would they consider it and Mr.
Sundstrom said anything was possible.
Alderman Schaefer stated his concern remains forcing carts on all residents. He agrees it
would be much cleaner and convenient however residents are concerned about the cost.
Mr. Alm asked what if they came up with a proposal that stickers would remain available
only for seniors at a reduce monthly rate. Alderman Glab asked how that would be
monitored. Mr. Alm said the city would have to organize a method for residents to prove
their age adding this is done in other communities. Alderman Schaefer noted the
concerns he has heard are not just from seniors, but from one and two person households.
�, Mr. Kuerschner said Waste Management is trying to move away from a sticker program.
He further stated if the city decides to remain with a sticker program, to keep the cost
down, there would need to be a monthly base rate fee in addition to the cost of the sticker
as proposed in Option A.
Alderman Schaefer asked Waste Management if the city approved Option A, would we
continue to see stickers fade away to fewer than 20% usage or do they expect to see it
staying flat at 30-40%. Mr. Kuerschner said sticker sales would most likely continue to
decline over time; by introducing the base rate we may be able to control it slightly.
Director Schmitt clarified the monthly base rate in Option A is $5.95. Every resident not
on a cart program would be billed that amount each month even if they do not buy a
sticker. Director Schmitt asked for guidance on which Option the Committee would
recommend to the full Council. Alderman Schaefer noted residents who leave for the
winter would still have to pay the monthly base rate. It was also pointed out in Option A,
the monthly cart fee would remain the same as it is today. Mr. Kuerschner said the cart
cost savings is in the cart only programs, Option B and C.
Alderman Glab told the Committee the cost for the all cart program, forcing residents to
rent a cart, or charging a monthly base fee along with the cost of a sticker is unacceptable
and he suggested going out for RFP's. Mr. Kuerschner said this service is the same as
�-- any other service the city provides and all residents have to share in the cost. Director
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Schmitt agreed noting the city charges a base rate along with use rate for water and
sewer.
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Alderman Schaefer said he agrees the city needs to look into this more. Director Schmitt
asked i'or direction. Alderman Glab suggested reviewing what other communities pay
Waste:Vlanagement for services.
Alderman Schaefer said he would prefer to take the entire proposal to the full Council for
discussion.
Alderman Wimmer added Waste Management has to make money on this too; sometimes
things have to change.
Alderman Glab made a motion, seconded by Alderman Schaefer to direct staff to provide
community service/cost comparisons and present the entire proposal to the full City
Council for discussion with no recommendation from the Committee.
Voting Aye: Glab, Schaefer, Wimmer
Voting Nay: None
Not Voting: None
Abstaining: None
Absent: None
� Motion carried.
Representatives from Waste Management left the meeting at 6:40 PM
6. Adjournment
There being no further business to discuss, motion by Wimmer, seconded by Glab to
adjourn the meeting at 6:41 PM.
Voting Aye: Wimmer, Glab, Schaefer
Voting Nay: None
Abstaining: None
Absent: None
Motion carried.
Reviewed and Approved:
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